We say that because being here you show an interest.
Why doesn't mattter so much as the fact that you are here.
We choose to believe that you just might want to help a survivor in your life.
You might be:
A parent that suspects something happened.
A friend that can tell we're holding something back.
A doctor that sees one of the bruises that we try so hard to hide.
Or you're just one of those that wants to know more so that you can help.
What ever the reason, we will tell you a bit of what we go through.
Please start by reading the anonymous note below.
We have seen things we shouldn't have seen...
We have done things we shouldn't have done...
We have experienced things we shouldn't have...
All of which come together to create...
pain...anger...and confusion.
Cumulating into an anguish (a suffering) that not one person should know.
Yet, we survived. But why, unto what end...what cause?
Many say it is the aloneness that is the worst.
For others it long nights, lying in the darkness.
Some live each day with memories that will not leave.
As Survivors, we know too much, we've been through it.
At Your Sanctuary (our forum) we have asked members that are survivors to post a bit about the
challenges they face. We will then date it and bring that post out here where you read it.
I thought that I would break the ice on this one.
Today, I was reminded by myself of our low self-esteem, the way that the perpetrator said that
we were no better than a tramp. It wasn't so much what he said, as the way he said it
Tenanya
Tenanya
It is the nature of the perp. to put down their victims. It is what makes them powerful.
Remember though, that you are too, powerful. (all of us know that!) So many of us survivors
carry those words, actions and demeanors with us. It is the nature of the victim.
You are a survivor now, and the nature of a survivor is a strong confident one.
Some times we fall back into "victimhood" with our insecurities, which at times maybe
necessary to remind us of our strength. In case you don't remember, you are strong, and I
believe in you. You are worth so much more than victimhood, you are worth love, and support.
You are worth friendship, you are worth warm and comfortable hugs. You are worth protecting,
caring, holding (if you want) and so much more.
I am risking sounding mushy and idealistic, but these are my thoughts (albeit, unedited)
Take care,
Peace and Contentment,
IW
Today I was watching "Untold Stories of the ER". A woman had been mauled by a
cougar/mountain lion and had extensive damage including one side of her face. They showed
her 6(?) months later and she said that she could just be sad for the rest of her life
because of what happened to her, or she could accept it and move on in her life.
Again I thought of "what happened" to me and choked the tears back. You see I have been
molested or r*p*d by five different perpetrat ors (one was my therapist {Look at that
word again, do you see what two words it spells?}).
I am over 40 and I still have not accepted "what happened". I still believe what they did
is unforgivable. They knew the evil *cries* that they did to me. I can feel the black poison
that runs in my veins because of them. Yes I self-harm, because sometimes I have to get the
evil, thick like tar, poison out.
Accept it and move on? No not yet. I want to stop crying but I can't yet.
Cloud
Cloud, I can't imagine what you are going through. I do know what it is to be one of us, and to relate seemingly unrelated events or topics to our lives. My quark is the Disney channel. I will watch these happy preteen primers and find myself crying like crazy half way through. I wonder- why didn't I have her troubles, her hair, her family. Why can't I be pretty, yada yada yada. I tell myself that it is pathetic, I don't need to think that way, that I am strong. Still, Lindsy Lohans perfect hair and teenage crisis not only makes me jealous, it makes me depressed. I would rather deal with making my pretty body look prettier and having to pay for a window that I broke. Instead, I am fighting my depression, my psychosis, my pain, and memories. Instead, I am not pretty, and many ways can't see getting any better looking. I haven't broke any windows, but I do have debts. I guess what I am trying to say, is that I can relate. We are going at our own pace, even if that means years down the road, we still cry half way through TV shows. Cloud, just remember, they don't know what you know. At least at YS, you can find some one who can relate.
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IW
Thank you for your words, and mostly reminding me of something that I forget too often.
To quote someone that you may know or have heard of.
In the end, he said:
"I'm not alone, not anymore.",
Thank you again,
Cloud
That is a great quote. I use something called an affirmation. Affirmations, are
saying that you repeat every morning or which ever time you like. The repetitions
affirm or reaffirm the meanings behind the sayings. Sometimes I change my
affirmations to fit my current needs. For instance: "I release my belief in
negativity. I release my need to be destructive, I am greatfull that spirit is the
peace and contentment that I am". You can change the words to fit your needs.
My dad tells me "I believe in you" every time he answers the phone. It is the same
principle, but tell yourself some thing. "I'm not alone, not anymore." is a good
one.
Hm... I feel a natural remedy coming on...
Love always
IW
Hello,
Today I saw a commercial about a product that improved physical appearance. Being a
survivor of abuse and assault, and having lived a "blessed" life (see My Story), I
was not worried about what I looked like until I was in my mid-twenties.
Being a bit older now, as I watched this commercial, I applied a standard of "It's
who you are, not what you look like". Some similar sayings are: "It's not how you
look, it's how you feel". "It could (always) be worse". "Live with it" or "Deal
with it". There are more, but this is enough to prove a point.
What is my point? That today I have learned from a commercial that it is not the
solution that is important (something that I have applied for a few years now AND
being a male, finding a solution "If you {solution here} instead of being
compassionate). It is a quality that I will have to work on, especially for
survivors of abuse or assault. They don't want to hear how to fix it, they want to
know (through that knowledge they will come to believe) that someone cares.
While I apply this to survivors of abuse or assault, it is true for everyone. Yes,
even those (possibly more so) that have elevated self-esteem (seeming to not have a
care in the world).
Now there's something to think about.
Take Care,
Cloud
something good to think about
Broken
I found this video and it really expresses how I'm feeling at the moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dy7LwDZjkU
It's been a difficult week on top of a crazy emotional roller coaster I'm on.
(HELP) I lost a close childhood friend last Saturday and It's been a very difficult
few days here. He left behind a wife and four young children my heart breaks
for his family.(cries)
Also ended up in a fight again tonight with my husband.
And he ended up throwing his food at me this time. Then he spent the next
hour yelling at me about how I provoked him to do it. I'm having a difficult
time with my parents at this time too....I'm at the point that I'm ready to
shut them completel y out of my life. Why is it that the people we care about
most in our lives end up hurting us the most? I feel broken in so many ways.
I know I'm not alone.... ..I have friends but I am ashamed to admit to them that
my husband throws things at me or pushes me when we fight.(shhhh) He can be so cold
and heartless with his words and sounding so (self) righteous at the same time.
It makes me so angry (mad face) that I'm constantly humiliated in front of my children and
being told I deserve it. I know in my heart I don't deserve any of it.(sobs)
RainDrop
So sorry that you are hurting. Sending you hugs, prayers and warm wishes.
You are correct you do not deserve any of the bad treatment that you are
getting.
Broken
HUG!
I am so sorry that you are dealing with all of this! RD, I just wanted to
relay to you that I see a pattern of domestic violence here. There is a cycle
and it defiantly seems you have reached stage two. He is abusing you. Its not
your fault! Aggressor s put down their victims and tell them that its the
victims fault (you provoked me). I recognize that you are in a really tough
spot. You have your children to think about, and you probably love your
husband. Still, he cannot do these things to you! Do you know that when he
does that, and your children are watching they become second hand survivors?
I am sorry if I am being really forward.. .. I CARE! I guess I am still a bit
angry about the situation my mom went through and the abuse I survived.
Here is a link, please look into it:
Cycle of Abuse
Your friend,IW
Be Safe!
Checking in today to say that I am thinking about Raindrop and hoping that she
is doing better.
Broken
Just because I am silent, this doesn't mean that I don't care. To the contrary,
this is a larger than usual reply.
First, (officially speaking) I want to remind everyone that this is a blog and
the general public has access to it.
With this in mind, we will not make changes or corrections, nor will we move
this arbitrarily move this (unless a post is in violation of our Terms Of Use).
I have read this over a number of times in efforts to not reply with an emotional
response (tempting as it may be).
Rather, here is a diagram showing the cycle of domestic abuse.
Thank you all so much for your concern and your prayers. I'm overwhelmed at
the moment
in reading all the comments. (shocked face)
Cloud thank you taking the time and sharing ACloudWalker's words and the
Bible verses. They are very helpful to my mind set at the moment. And I
will be reading them again and thinking more about those words.
I am also a second hand survivor IW. (sad face) I remember the feeling of
being afraid or wishing I wasn't born when my father would verbally abuse
my mother and make her feel like less of a person. Sadly my mother is
still with this man (my Step father) who treated her and her children this
way. I hate him and love him at the same time. But mostly I hate him!
He still mentally abuses me and now he uses facebook and publicly shames
me with his rude remarks. I don't even show myself online anymore because
my Dad would say random crazy stuff to me trying to get a rise out of me and
then I found out (from another family member) that my Dad was posing as my
mother online and talking to me. That in itself is a long story.... Don't
want to get to far off subject here....I should get back to discussing the
husband. It took me awhile to see the abuse in my relations hip with my husband.
I can only fathom it was because as a survivor of physical, mental and verbal
abuse from my parents I'm used to being treated like that. The fact that my
children see it and here it does concern me because I know what they are going
through right now. (single tear)
I could say more but I have way to much to say (tape over lips). and I really
need to go to bed. I just wanted to say thank you for your concern.
RainDrop
Just a thought and take it for what its worth but I am learning that you
"teach" people how
you want to be treated. The more you set limits and
boundaries the better you will be treated. No limits or boundaries its
easy to become a doormat.. or a victim... be strong..thinking of you.
Broken
Thinking of you as well. I don't know what holidays, if any that you celebrate.
With the upcoming holiday, and the post you made, I have been thinking of my
past holidays.
They were crazy, some times harsh, dysfunctional, and tough. Tears and pain
always was included. But you know something? I don't remember a single holiday
season of which I was truly unhappy.
It is so weird. One of my aggressors beat me black and blue on Christmas eve,
but I remember not the abuse, but instead, egg nog and peppermint ice cream.
My musings,
Always IW
I agree IW....It seems a black cloud follows most of us around on the holidays(sad face).
But your right the comforts of Christmas and the overall holiday spirit helps
to keep us happier for the most part. We tend to help and give more to those
in need and that also makes us feel better overall. Helping us to not be
unhappy for a moment... .and be grateful.
Thank you for your thoughts Broken... YOUR RIGHT! I need to work on those
boundaries more and get him to listen to me too...Though come to think of it,
I've been trying to do that for the last 20 yrs(sad face). I really need
to get us into counseling....so that a third party can help set those
boundaries with us(sad face).
Now that is growth. I hope you are glad for it.
Cloud
Thinking of you Raindrop and hoping that you are well.
Broken
I will be more glad when I listen to my advice and take it. Saying it and
knowing it are one thing.... but growth will only happen when I take that
step and go.(embarrassed face) Thanks Cloud!
And Thanks Broken for thinking of me....I'm better then I was(winking face).
Hope your well too!
Hi all
You are all in my thoughts and prayers. I know that sound a bit "religous"
but I feel that its nice to know that some one is not only thinking of you
but trying to help, even if all they can do is whisper their thoughts of you.
Who knows, in this cosmic world of ours maybe prayers really to help. Maybe
just the person knowing that you are praying for them is enough to change
things. I love to believe that what ever your God, we are all connected,
praying for the greater good, and sending our love to each other.
So heres to my love, my prayers and my thoughts for you all.
Happy Holidays, Winter Weather, and New Year.
Always,
IW
I couldn't agree with you more IW.
I believe in the power of prayer and the power of thoughts too! Sending LOVE to everyone also!
RainDrop
Hope that all are surviving and thriving during the holidays.
Broken
Just wanted to say that I HATE change and lots of things are changing in my life right now making me uncomfortable and weepy...and feeling bad....
Broken
Sorry to hear you are feeling bad.
Generally speaking, routine or the absence of change is something that everyone
comes to know (whatever the routine, they know what is "going to happen next"), and
because of this "foreknowledge there is not the unpleasantness or fear of what
"might" happen.
Is this something that you can or choose to be more specific about? If you don't,
that's okay too.
Wishing that you can find a way of coping that will help you, from mantras, to the
members SCREAMING ROOMS.
Warmly,
Your Sanctuary Staff
At work we are preparing for an audit and some adminstrators could be replaced.
I report to 4 different male principals and get along with all except for one who
likes to make inappropriate comments to me and micromanage. His office has been
moved closer to my room due to remodeling (like right across the hall).
At Church our minister was removed and a new minister hired all in about 3 months
time.
2 examples. ..I hate change
Broken
I agree, change is something that is always accepted more easily if it is only one
at a time.
Wish I could think of something helpful to beyond this.
Many of us have survived worse, and I know you can make it through this (but I
also know that doesn't make it any easier).
Cloud
I really DISLIKE change unless I am in control of it. Right now is a good example. My brother is sick and has been in the hospital. He has since moved to Santa Rosa Memorial, which is a better hospital. Though that is hard for every one involved. In order to cope with change I don't want I make a change I do want. So out of inspiration of my brother, I have decided that I will make sure that I am healthy. That my son gets the best of care and healthy food. I make that change to take care of my husband and not let him worry about his own health... we will take care of each to other. IDK [I don't know]... just thoughts ... ~IW
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You are so NOT the person I met a year ago. You have grown so much.
Cloud
still living through my changing times..ho pe things are better for all of you..
Broken
I know I haven't been here as often... but I am feeling I have lost my place here.
IW
IO, that is so not true. You are missed and welcomed here, ALWAYS!!
I have double checked and verified that all members can freely join the "On Vacation" membergroup.
Likewise, they can leave the group as well.
We appreciate your posts.
I'm sure I speak for all our members,
Cloud
Broken, unfortunately change is a constant in itself. All of us, whether survivor
or not, resist change. And why not? Routine is comfortable. Knowing what will
happen allows us to prepare for good or bad things that are upcoming. It is the not
knowing that many find the most troubling. Once the change has occurred (and has
stabilized) it will become "the norm".
Just my thoughts,
Cloud
IO You did not lose yor place here or in my thoughts. Always thinking of you.
Broken
I understand that feeling very well. But have no worries you always have a place here.
RainDrop
So many emotions going on right now.
It was good to log in today and see that you three have posted here letting me know
I still belong. It really is uplifting to me. Thanks so much.
An update:
I started my second semester in college yesterday. I am so excited but a little
overwhelmed. I still do not have my books but I did manage to jump through all the
hoops fafsa wanted me too. My classes are paid for and soon I will get a small
check to help with supplies.
I have been working for a little old lady doing every day stuff that she is too old
for.
I am optimistic about my near future.
Love always,
~IO
Good Luck with the new semester! I know its a little overwhelming but I think a new
semester is exciting. So much to learn. Must be the teacher in me.
Broken
I'm having a hard morning emotionally. Yesterday I got into a huge fight with my
husband about attending my art group meeting next Friday. Turns out he will be away
chaperoning a youth retreat for our church youth group. So he won't be around to
take our son to his Cub Scout Pack meeting and he needed me to take my son there
instead of going to my art meeting. Usually the kids attend the art meetings
(when it doesn't fall on a cub scout night) because the core people in the group
all have kids close in age. Next weeks meeting is an outing we've been planing for
awhile one that didn't involve the children. We are secretly creating art
somewhere in our town (a road side memorial of sorts.... to celebrate art). I
really wanted to be a part of this gathering and was working on trying to get a
babysitter and skip my sons Pack Meeting. I really didn't think it would bother my
son to miss one of his pack meetings. They are a very busy pack and do a lot all
year long. Anyway I didn't think it was that big of a deal to try to work out a
babysitter (my mother in law) so I could go to the art meeting. So then I was
going to try to see if I could get someone else to take him to his meeting. But
my husband thinks I'm being selfish and that I should never put myself before my
kids. I really didn't see it that way...though now I feel like it. He made it
clear to me how he saw it and now my children heard his anger and what he said to
me....so who knows what they think of me now. I decided I can't go to this art
meeting now with out looking like I've failed my family and made a selfish decision.
My husband seems to think that when I cry when he is angry with me and we are
fighting that it's because I'm trying to make him feel bad...so he will cave (which
never happens so why would I try?). That's just not true. I cry because I am not
being heard and I feel overpowered emotionally.
So then I was sitting this morning writing an email to my friend that runs the Art
group to let her know I regretful ly wouldn't be there next week. I sat there and
cried my eyes out :y47: while I wrote her that message. My husband was not even
home at the time....so If I was crying to make him feel bad wouldn't he need to be
here to see it? I guess I'm crying because I'm feeling sorry for myself and
embarrassed that my husband isn't more supportive and understanding.
RainDrop
I am sorry you are hurting Raindrop. ..
Broken
I just wanted to update this post.
After much arguing about things with my husband over the weekend. This morning he
called me from work to tell me he lined up his mother to babysit for the kids
Friday night so that I can go to my art meeting. I asked him why the change of
heart....(because he argued with me all weekend about it)? He said because he
loves me and wants to make me happy. He also said it should of never been an
issue. WOW!!! Maybe something I said got through to him. I told him yesterday
that I think it all boils down to him wanting to control me. He has the kids to
guilt me into what he wants me to do now. I reminded him that he used to try to
control what I did even before we had kids. He says that I am a rebel and that I
just want to rebel against him. So I said to him "I'm an adult...I'm not your
child.... Stop placing all these rules and regulations on my life and I won't have
rules to break". I also thanked him for pointing out my selfishness and told him
he was right that it is selfish. But I knew my son wouldn't mind making that
sacrifice for me. I told him what hurt me the most is that he couldn't try to
support me in the situation (I support him in many things in his life). He didn't
want to find a solution he just wanted to dictate what I was doing that night and
embarrass me in front of the kids. I guess he couldn't live with the resentment he
knew I would have for him for keeping me away from my dreams... .so he caved and
called his mom. Whatever the case may be....I WAS HEARD (I guess)....a whole
weekend of yelling and crying may have payed off a little today. But sadly my
children get to hear it all. Though it's better then just doing as he says and not
standing up for myself. RIGHT?!?!
RainDrop
Raindrop,
I am really glad that things worked out.
Underneath all that dictating and controlling is a guy that cares for you. I am
glad to see that he showed his face for you! Sometimes an insecurity on their part
is what causes the aggressive behavior. After testing the bounds, he may have
gotten over that insecurity, (what ever it may be) Maybe it was just he felt things
were a little chaotic? I don't really know about your situation, however I may
relate a little.
My father in-law had been relatively easy to deal with. Then his wife came home
(she was doing 24hr in home care... the job is over) and now he is a complete
grouch/jerk. I asked myself "What is his problem?"
When it was just him and us "kids", we did everything he said, and didn't argue,
talk back or negate him. We have learn to just be pawns or not be home.
His wife, stands up to him, voices her opinions and negates a few of the things he
says. So he yells and b*tch*s until he gets his way.
The he is a nice guy and takes care of us all and does something fun and
spontaneous.
Why?
Because.. ... HE CAN.
That doesn't make it right. But maybe that will help a little...?
Peace and Contentment
~IO
Raindrop glad you get to go to your art meeting. IW sorry things are difficult for you.
Broken